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🎲You’re watching the 9th Livestream of Craps Strategies LIVE! Today’s strategy is to be determined.Let me know, in the comments, what strategies you want tr. Feb 28, 2016 Most people I talked to believe an Aruze e-crap machine plays the same so it didn't matter which casino the machine was located. The hardest question to answer to my buddies was how do I consistently beat the game. I used an analogy of how the dice in real craps game was changed frequently but the dice in e-craps are changed infrequently. In Aruze Craps, the dice are tumbling and I understand that confuses the live Craps players but it is because the dice are tumbling that the “set” can manifest itself. So knowing when to push the button makes all the difference. #7 TR31, May 29, 2020. Most people I talked to believe an Aruze e-crap machine plays the same so it didn't matter which casino the machine was located. The hardest question to answer to my buddies was how do I consistently beat the game. I used an analogy of how the dice in real craps game was changed frequently but the dice in e-craps are changed infrequently.

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cwazy
This post concerns the Aruze Shoot to Win machines, not regular craps tables (which are unbeatable). I have noticed that some, but not all, of these machines have recently been modified with a new style of platform that has a fairly significant dip in the middle. Before, the platforms on which the dice sit were completely flat.
Since changes like this are rarely done unless there is a need, it would seem that the sizable number of machines that still have the completely flat platform have some kind of vulnerability that Aruze considered serious enough to design and deploy a new platform to counter. Does anyone know what the vulnerability is? I have an idea, but have not done enough testing/research to make a mathematically sound conclusion.
RogerKint
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Yeah let me go ahead and spell out that vulnerability on a public forum that gets regularly analyzed by casino personnel ;)
Sometimes the dice lean up against the glass so that the outcome of the roll can't be determined by the unit. You can imagine the complaints when that undetected roll appears to most likely be the point and/or hardway. My guess is a dip in the middle of the platform reduces the number of undetermined rolls.
PS real table craps can be beaten. Ask mustangsally
cwazy

Yeah let me go ahead and spell out that vulnerability on a public forum that gets regularly analyzed by casino personnel ;)
Sometimes the dice lean up against the glass so that the outcome of the roll can't be determined by the unit. You can imagine the complaints when that undetected roll appears to most likely be the point and/or hardway. My guess is a dip in the middle of the platform reduces the number of undetermined rolls.
PS real table craps can be beaten. Ask mustangsally


The dip I am referring to does not help with the situation you are talking about. It doesn't extend to the edges - only about 1/6th of the platform (in the center) has the dip. It seems to be there to increase randomness of the roll, which of course implies that the flat platform wasn’t random enough to protect the game, and somebody was beating it. My question is...if someone was beating the flat platform, how were they doing it? The fact that there is a problem with the flat platform is apparently already known by Aruze anyway, so I actually don’t see a problem with discussing it openly.
darkoz
If it was a beatable exploit that aruze is aware of they will most likely replace all their machines
However you are making an assumption as to purpose. It may be something unrelated. Perhaps the sensors for detecting dice pips work better this way or some internal game mechanics fit inside better or even the internal computer has a sleeker shape that required the change
There may be a.number of reasons for such a change. Either way its somewhat moot if aruze is pulling the old versions
Ayecarumba

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Just speculating about a vulnerability...
The dice don’t always roll when the “tingler” is activated. This means one or both will be tossed straight up, rather than at an angle. I think this is akin to a Craps table toss failing to hit the back wall.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
cwazy

Just speculating about a vulnerability...
The dice don’t always roll when the “tingler” is activated. This means one or both will be tossed straight up, rather than at an angle. I think this is akin to a Craps table toss failing to hit the back wall.


Well, that's absolutely true. All rolls are counted (unlike at a craps table where a roll can be invalidated), and I have seen quite a few where the dice fail to roll at all, and many many more where 1 die stays with whatever was on top and the other rolls. I'm not sure statistically how often this happens though....not sure whether it's enough to actually swing the edge toward the player. I was thinking along the same lines though. It would be interesting to take a video of one of these things for like an hour and watch the position when rolled etc to see if you can minimize the chance of the dice rolling away from what you want when you shoot.
cwazy

Either way its somewhat moot if aruze is pulling the old versions

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They aren't pulling all of them though. One casino in Vegas, for example, has two of these machines. One is flat, the other isn't. There are several in other jurisdictions that are still flat as well. Maybe they're offering it to casinos as an optional enhancement.
darkoz
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They aren't pulling all of them though. One casino in Vegas, for example, has two of these machines. One is flat, the other isn't. There are several in other jurisdictions that are still flat as well. Maybe they're offering it to casinos as an optional enhancement.


Then that should answer your question as to whether this design change was due to suspected AP vulnerability. No way do they go to that trouble and then fail to replace all the machines
Since you have seen some old and new side by side i would theorize they have changed the design for aesthetic purposes and are replacing machines as needed. Similar to how trains on a subway line have older models fazed out as they are replaced by newer models so u see first a mixture and then eventually nothing but the newer model
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Ayecarumba

Then that should answer your question as to whether this design change was due to suspected AP vulnerability. No way do they go to that trouble and then fail to replace all the machines
Since you have seen some old and new side by side i would theorize they have changed the design for aesthetic purposes and are replacing machines as needed. Similar to how trains on a subway line have older models fazed out as they are replaced by newer models so u see first a mixture and then eventually nothing but the newer model


I don’t think the manufacturer would go through the trouble of changing the platform (which involves extensive testing to verify that it produces random results) for purely aesthetic reasons. I suspect results from the old design were not as “random” as expected.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
Mikey75
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They installed one of these at my local casino. For what ever reason it seemed to roll a abnormal number of sevens. I made good money on that machine betting the don't. It lasted almost a month and they pulled it. I sure wish it was still there.

In a recent statement, Casino Metro General Manager Ismael Vega announced that the semi-automated craps game, Roll to Win Craps, will be available at Casino Metro in San Juan, Puerto Rico early next year. This will mark the Latin America debut for Roll to Win Craps.

“Roll to Win Craps” will make its Latin American debut in Puerto Rico early next year. ©Clker-Free-Vector-Images/Pixabay

“Roll To Win Craps”: A Tech Twist on a Casino Classic for the Millennial Crowd

Roll to Win Craps is a recent innovation by Aruze Gaming America, a games and slots distributor known for such machines as the Cube-X, G-series, and the Muso series. On these machines, players can access such games as The Brave Spirit, Rainbow Wheel Blossom, Dream Money, Ancient Wheel Panda, Tower Stack Dragon, and more.

Roll to Win Craps, one of the company’s latest innovations, made quite the buzz at its premiere at the Global Gaming Expo (G2E) in 2018.

In this new version produced by Aruze Gaming, the traditional green felt table and chips are swapped out for screens, as players place digital bets and roll (real) dice on an LED surface. At the time, spectators of the new game noted that the digitization of the famous casino game would make for more efficient and accurate gameplay, with no lag time for a dealer to collect chips. This new version also adds new special effects to contribute to the excitement: once a bet is placed, an animation whooshes flames towards the center of the table from the seat of the player.

The game will also feature a game history so that players can see previous bets and wins for the game and track payouts. While being useful to the players, this is also intended to help dealers keep an organized and responsible eye on gameplay.

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In an intriguing touch, several different animation styles for the game are available, from more classic looking to more out-there — it’ll be up to the operators to choose which animation style their table will use. Those familiar with the graphics of Aruze Gaming may also notice visual similarities between “Roll to Win Craps” and their previous game, “Shoot to Win Craps,” another electronic table game.

According to Aruze executive director Brandon Knowles, this redesign is intended to draw millennial guests at casinos to the craps table, from which they may be otherwise intimidated. To further this aim, “Roll to Win Craps” offers a help menu with instructions for newer players to get a sense of how to get started.

Following the initial reveal of Aruze’s newest game, industry giants like Caesars Entertainment expressed their support for the product. Vice President of Caesars table games Kerry Whitney admired “Roll to Win Craps,” saying:

“I think we have a good opportunity to grow our (table games) business. The one game that keeps growing year over year is craps. It’s a communal game where people can root for one another. When you walk through a casino and you hear the loudest screams, they’re at the craps table.”

Casino Metro: An Eager Host

Casino Metro, which bills itself as “San Juan’s Best Bet,” is located in the bustling Convention District of Puerto Rico’s capital — and biggest — city. Home to over 400 slot machines and 19 table games (including, among them, roulette, Texas Hold ‘Em Poker, World Poker Tour, and Mini-Baccarat). In addition to their casino, Casino Metro hosts a variety of entertainment options, from musical performances to viewings of sporting events and comedy shows.

In the statement issued by Casino Metro General Manager Ismael Vega, Vega reiterated the earlier assessments of “Roll To Win Craps” at last year’s G2E: namely, that the game would prevent younger or less-experienced gamers from feeling intimidated by the more classic version of the popular blackjack game. In the statement, Vega also commented on the growing popularity of electronic table gamesat casinos and other gaming establishments, and the desire on the part of Casino Metro to keep pace with the current trend.

Electronic Table Games: Gaming for the Future?

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In the last year, much speculation has been made about the possibilities of electronic table gaming in casinos. Aside from Caesars Entertainment’s admiration of the “Roll to Win Craps” rollout at last year’s G2E, Sands Casinohas already gotten in on the trend.

In 2016, Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem unveiled the largest collection of electronic table games in the US, what they referred to as a “stadium” of 150 electronic table games. In order to introduce this new innovation to their casino, the Bethlehem-based casino-resort invested $5 million to transform their juice bar into an updated gaming center for tech-savvy gamblers.

“Roll To Win Craps” is an interesting fusion of electronic table games and old-fashioned craps playing, incorporating the classic collaborative excitement and human dealer of traditional craps with updated bells and whistles like bill acceptors and player tracking.

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Aruze Gaming Sees the Potential for Growth in Latin America

As this will be the first casino in Latin America to host “Roll to Win Craps,” executives at Aruze Gaming are equally excited about the new arrangement. Aruze Gaming Vice President and General Manager of Latin America and Caribbean Michael Snyder described Latin America as a “very important market” to Aruze. Further, he described this latest deal with Puerto Rico as “the first of many installs” Aruze foresees in the region.

Gaming in Puerto Rico: An Overview

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For a small island, Puerto Rico contains a fairly large number of casinos:15 in total, the majority of which are concentrated (like Casino Metro) in the island’s capital, San Juan. According to the government’s law, casinos in Puerto Rico must be located within a hotel or resort. They are open 24 hours a day, and gamblers must be over the age of 18 to participate.